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Grenades, Ordnance or Grenadelikes are items that can be thrown to cause different effects.

They can be obtained via crafting, purchasing them from some in-game vendors and more complex grenades can be obtained by Rogue class via Shady Deals

The DC for all grenades/ordnance is:

 DC = 10 + Dexterity modifier

Grenade

These grenades can be used by anyone without any requirement, they can be purchased from certain NPC or obtained via crafting.

Grenade	Effect	Duration & Target	Effect Duration	Save	Crafting	Friendly Fire
Chocking Powder	Daze	5 Rounds - Cloud Effect	1 Round	Fortitude Save vs Poison	Alchemy Herbalism	Full
Thunderstone	Deaf	Instant - Area	5 Rounds	Fortitude Save vs Sonic	Alchemy	No
Tanglefoot Bag	Entangle	Instant - Single	2 Rounds	Reflex Save vs Traps	Alchemy	No*
Caltrops	1 Pierce Damage	25 points of damage- Ground Effect	None	None	Smithing	Full
Holy Water	2d4 Divine & 1 Divine Splash	Instant - Single	None	Explosion: Ranged Touch Attack Splash: No save	Alchemy	No*
Acid Flask	1d6 Acid Damage	Instant - Single	None	Explosion: Ranged Touch Attack Splash*: No save	Alchemy	No*
Acid Bomb	Explosion: 10d6 Acid & 1 Acid Splash Damage Cloud: Acid Fog	5 Rounds - Cloud Effect	Acid Fog 5 Rounds	Explosion: Ranged Touch Attack Splash: No save	Alchemy	Full
Alchemist Fire	1d6 Fire Damage	Instant - Single	None	Explosion: Ranged Touch Attack Splash*: No save	Alchemy	No*
Fire Bomb	10d6 Fire & 1 Fire Splash Damage	Instant - Area	None	Explosion: Ranged Touch Attack Splash: No save	Alchemy	Full

Notes

Friendly Fire
- Full: Will hit anyone in the grenade area of effect, including the thrower.
- No*: Will not hit party members, until the grenade is thrown directly at them.
- No: Grenade is 100% safe for the user and the party members.

Ordnance

The following grenades have more powerful effects and can only be obtained via loot or via Shady Deals and requires Method: Grenadier Basics feat to use.

Feat

Description

Shady Deals

Type of feat: Rogue Class

Prerequisite: Rogue 12

Required for: N/A

Specifics: Rogues can make use of the -rogue command once every 10 minutes to requisition some special items in exchange for gold. Each use of the command generates five of the specified grenade. The requisitions are unlocked as you advance in Rogue class levels. The grenades may be traded but requires the feat Method: Grenadier Basics to use them.

The format is -rogue followed by the code in the table below. More details about these special grenades can be found here.

Use: Chat Command (e.g. -rogue md)

Level	Grenade (Code)	GP Cost	Effects
12	Smoke Screen (ss)	1000gp	Creates a cloud effect at the Rogue's location. Creatures passing through the cloud gain a lingering debuff to Spot, a lingering buff to Hide and 20% concealment.
14	Exploding Holy Flask (ehf)	1500gp	Anti-Undead Grenade that does increasing amounts of damage with Rogue levels and slows undead targets on a failed Reflex save. Affects PC Undead.
16	Dust of Silence (dos)	2500gp	Buffs the Move Silently of the Rogue and nearby party members for a number of turns equal to Rogue class level.
18	Disjunction Shard (ds)	2500gp	Anti-Construct grenade that does increasing amounts of damage with Rogue levels. Also does an AoE breach effect that affects both constructs and non-constructs. Two breaches regardless of save or not. If the target fails the save, then there will be three breaches.
20	Mirror Dust (md)	3750gp	Creates a cloud effect at the Rogue's location. Creatures passing through the cloud gain a lingering debuff to AB and a lingering Miss Chance debuff.
22	Beholder Dust (bd)	5000gp	Creates a cloud effect at the Rogue's location. Creatures passing through the cloud gain a lingering debuff to Concentration and a Spell Failure Chance.
24	Paralytic Caltrops (pc)	4250gp	Creates a field of caltrops that causes one round of immobilize and a lingering movement speed debuff on a failed Reflex save. Targets who fail the saving throw are immune to further flashbang and paralytic caltrop effects for 3 rounds.
24	Flashbang (fb)	5000gp	This grenade causes a one round Stun effect and a lingering -2 universal save debuff on a failed Reflex save. Targets who fail the saving throw are immune to further flashbang and paralytic caltrop effects for 3 rounds.

Grenade	Effect	Duration & Target	Effect Duration	Save	Friendly Fire
Smoke Screen	+5 Hide, -5 Spot, 20% Concealment	Instant - Self Centered Area	10 Rounds	None	Full
Exploding Holy Flask	Cloud: (Rogue)d4 Positive Damage per Round	3 Rounds - Cloud Effect	Slow	Damage:None Slow: Reflex Save vs Positive	No
Dust of Silence	+10 Move Silently	Instant - Self Centered Area	(Rogue) Turns	None	Full
Disjunction Shard	Explosion: Breaches 2 effect, +1 if target fails the save Cloud: (Rogue)d4 Magic Damage vs Constructs per Round	3 Rounds - Cloud Effect	Slow	Damage:None Slow: Reflex Save vs Traps Breach: Reflex Save vs Traps	Full
Mirror Dust	-5 AB	1 round- Self Centered Area	10 Rounds	None	Full
Beholder Dust	-10 Concentration, 25 Spell Failure	5 Rounds - Self Centered Area	10 Rounds	None	Full
Paralytic Caltrops	Inmobilize and 50% movement reduction	10 Rounds - Ground Effect	Immbolize:1 Round Caltrop 50% Slow: 3 Rounds	Immobilize: Reflex Save vs Traps	Full
Flashbang	Stun and -4 Universal saves	Instant - Area	Stun:1 Round -4 Universal Save: 3 Rounds	Reflex Save vs Traps	Full

Feats

The following feats improve the grenades.

Feat

Description

Method: Grenadier Basics

Type of feat: Rogue Bonus, Liberator Bonus, Vigilante Bonus

Prerequisite: Rogue 7, Liberator 6, Vigilante 6

Required for: Improved Method: Ordnance Familiarity

Specifics: Not all battles can achieve victory through overwhelming strength. Innovators may utilize their innovative intelligence to create devices of distraction or devastation, whichever suits their agenda more. Gains knowledge to use ordnance and improve Grenades.

Use: Can use grenades obtained via Shady Deals, using Rogue Levels for the requirement.
Improve:
- Grenades DC: Adds Rogue Levels / 3 to any DC grenade check.
- Chocking Powder: Rogues with this feat that have at least 2/3 of their total levels as Rogue levels are immune to their own Choking Powder clouds.
- Caltrops: Damage increased by Rogue levels / 3 and increases total damage they can do by Rogue levels * 3.
- Holy Water: Adds (Rogue levels / 2)d4 to the explosion damage, adds Rogue Levels as Splash Damage.
- Acid Flask & Alchemist Fire: Adds (Rogue levels /4)d6 to the explosion damage, adds (Rogue levels/6)d6 as Splash Damage
- Acid Bomb & Fire Bomb: Adds (Rogue levels /4)d6 to the explosion damage, adds (Rogue levels/6)d6 as Splash Damage

Use: Automatic

Special: Harper and Zhentarim class levels are added to Rogue levels for all the effects above.

Improved Method: Ordnance Familiarity

Type of feat: Liberator Epic Bonus, Vigilante Epic Bonus

Prerequisite: Method: Grenadier Basics and Liberator 13 or Vigilante 13

Required for: None

Specifics: Not all battles can achieve victory through overwhelming strength. The Vigilante/Liberator may utilize their innovative intelligence to create devices of distraction or devastation, whichever suits their agenda more.

The Vigilante/Liberator class levels are now included in the calculations as Rogue Levels for Grenades use and improvement, but not for Shady Deals grenade acquisition.

In addition:

Disjunction Shard:improves the failed save breaches for Disjunction Shard from 3 to 4. Baseline 2 breaches are unchanged.
Choking Powder: Characters with Improved Method: Ordnance Familiarity are immune to their own Choking Powder cloud.

Use: Automatic

Special: All Harper levels are also counted for this feat.

Pages in category "Grenades"

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