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</noinclude>* Work in progress
</noinclude>* Work in progress
* Notes
* Notes
:* Large races cannot currently on PGCC dual wield large weapons (no dual greataxes)
:* Large races cannot dual wield large weapons (no dual greataxes) with or without monkey grip
:* whips, morningstars, and flails: can't offhand because of animations
:* Whips, morningstars, and flails: can't offhand because of animations
:* double-sided weapons are a thing
:* Double-sided weapons are a thing
:* Main hand gets full str bonus, offhand get half rounded down
:* Main hand gets full str bonus, offhand get half rounded down
:* Half-orcs get [[Ambidexterity]] for free, so they essentially bypass dex requirements, since MG, TWF, and ITWF don't have dex prerequisites
* Feats
* Feats
:* [[Improved two-weapon fighting]] (adds 2nd offhand attack, reduces the penalty for both hands by 1, free on ranger 9 and if taken before then its wasted)
:* [[Improved two-weapon fighting]] (adds 2nd offhand attack, reduces the penalty for both hands by 1, free on ranger 9 and if taken before then its wasted)
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:* [[Ambidexterity]] (reduces the penalty of the off-hand weapon by 4)
:* [[Ambidexterity]] (reduces the penalty of the off-hand weapon by 4)
:* [[Two-weapon fighting]] (reduces the penalty for both hands by 2)
:* [[Two-weapon fighting]] (reduces the penalty for both hands by 2)
:* [[Monkey Grip]] (same size, reduces the penalty for offhand by 2; not cumulative with lighter offhand)
:* [[Monkey Grip]] (reduces the penalty for both by 2 when offhand the same size)
:* Dual wield mastery (Doesn't exist anymore, rangers get +1 at level 9 from imp twf, tested on PGCC, and that appears to be it. Posted on forums to check.)
:* Dual wield mastery (Doesn't exist anymore. Rangers get +1 at level 9 from imp twf and that is it. Posted on forums to check.)
:* Offhand Lighter (without a feat, reduces the penalty for both by 2)
:* Offhand Lighter (without a feat, reduces the penalty for both by 2 when offhand lighter)
:{| class="wikitable sortable"
:{| class="wikitable sortable"
!Feats
!Feats
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| style="text-align:center;" | 3
| style="text-align:center;" | 3
|-
|-
| style="text-align:right;" | [[Monkey Grip]] & [[Ambidexterity]] (not right?)
| style="text-align:right;" | [[Monkey Grip]] & [[Ambidexterity]]
| style="text-align:center;" | Same
| style="text-align:center;" | Same
| style="text-align:center;" | -4
| style="text-align:center;" | -4
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| style="text-align:center;" | 3
| style="text-align:center;" | 3
|-
|-
| style="text-align:right;" | [[Monkey Grip]] & [[Ambidexterity]] (not right?)
| style="text-align:right;" | [[Monkey Grip]] & [[Ambidexterity]]
| style="text-align:center;" | Lighter
| style="text-align:center;" | Lighter
| style="text-align:center;" | -4
| style="text-align:center;" | -4
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| style="text-align:right;" | [[Monkey Grip]] & [[Two-weapon Fighting]]
| style="text-align:right;" | [[Monkey Grip]] & [[Two-weapon Fighting]]
| style="text-align:center;" | Same
| style="text-align:center;" | Same
| style="text-align:center;" | -4
| style="text-align:center;" | -2
| style="text-align:center;" | -6
| style="text-align:center;" | -6
| style="text-align:center;" | 13
| style="text-align:center;" | 13
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| style="text-align:right;" | [[Monkey Grip]] & [[Two-weapon Fighting]]
| style="text-align:right;" | [[Monkey Grip]] & [[Two-weapon Fighting]]
| style="text-align:center;" | Lighter
| style="text-align:center;" | Lighter
| style="text-align:center;" | -4
| style="text-align:center;" | -2
| style="text-align:center;" | -6
| style="text-align:center;" | -6
| style="text-align:center;" | 13
| style="text-align:center;" | 13
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| style="text-align:right;" | [[Improved Two-Weapon Fighting]] & [[Ambidexterity]] & [[Two-weapon Fighting]]
| style="text-align:right;" | [[Improved Two-Weapon Fighting]] & [[Ambidexterity]] & [[Two-weapon Fighting]]
| style="text-align:center;" | Same
| style="text-align:center;" | Same
| style="text-align:center;" | -1
| style="text-align:center;" | -3
| style="text-align:center;" | -3
| style="text-align:center;" | -3
| style="text-align:center;" |  
| style="text-align:center;" |  

Latest revision as of 22:34, 16 September 2022

NOTE: This is a template to organize the dual wield line of feats. Use transclusion to put a copy of the below table into the notes of dual wield feats. This section is noinclude and won't transfer.


  • Work in progress
  • Notes
  • Large races cannot dual wield large weapons (no dual greataxes) with or without monkey grip
  • Whips, morningstars, and flails: can't offhand because of animations
  • Double-sided weapons are a thing
  • Main hand gets full str bonus, offhand get half rounded down
  • Half-orcs get Ambidexterity for free, so they essentially bypass dex requirements, since MG, TWF, and ITWF don't have dex prerequisites
  • Feats
  • Improved two-weapon fighting (adds 2nd offhand attack, reduces the penalty for both hands by 1, free on ranger 9 and if taken before then its wasted)
  • Dual-wield (feat) (Like having ambi + two-wep, but have to have ranger lvl 1 and light armor or less)
  • Ambidexterity (reduces the penalty of the off-hand weapon by 4)
  • Two-weapon fighting (reduces the penalty for both hands by 2)
  • Monkey Grip (reduces the penalty for both by 2 when offhand the same size)
  • Dual wield mastery (Doesn't exist anymore. Rangers get +1 at level 9 from imp twf and that is it. Posted on forums to check.)
  • Offhand Lighter (without a feat, reduces the penalty for both by 2 when offhand lighter)
Feats Offhand
Size
Main AB Off AB STR Req DEX Req BAB Req
None Same -6 -10
None Lighter -4 -8
Ambidexterity Same -6 -6 13
Ambidexterity Lighter -4 -4 13
Two-weapon Fighting Same -4 -8
Two-weapon Fighting Lighter -2 -6
Monkey Grip Same -4 -8 13 3
Monkey Grip Lighter -4 -8 13 3
Monkey Grip & Ambidexterity Same -4 -4 13 13 3
Monkey Grip & Ambidexterity Lighter -4 -4 13 13 3
Monkey Grip & Two-weapon Fighting Same -2 -6 13 3
Monkey Grip & Two-weapon Fighting Lighter -2 -6 13 3
Ambidexterity & Two-weapon Fighting Same -4 -4 13
Ambidexterity & Two-weapon Fighting Lighter -2 -2 13
Monkey Grip & Ambidexterity & Two-weapon Fighting Same -2 -2 13 13 3
Monkey Grip & Ambidexterity & Two-weapon Fighting Lighter -2 -2 13 13 3
Improved Two-Weapon Fighting & Ambidexterity & Two-weapon Fighting Same -3 -3 13 9
Improved Two-Weapon Fighting & Ambidexterity & Two-weapon Fighting Lighter -1 -1 13 9
Monkey Grip & Improved Two-Weapon Fighting & Ambidexterity & Two-weapon Fighting Same -1 -1 13 13 9
Monkey Grip & Improved Two-Weapon Fighting & Ambidexterity & Two-weapon Fighting Lighter -1 -1 13 13 9